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Die BW-Ebene der Schuld hat ein wenig mehr Energie zur Verfügung als die der Scham. Wo Scham die Ausrottung und Vernichtung sucht, legt das Lebensgefühl der Schuld den Nachdruck auf Bestrafung. Zu diesem Thema gehören Masochismus, (Selbst-)Beschuldigungen und Gewissensbisse. Religiöse Gemeinschaften, die die Aspekte von Sünde und Verderbtheit des Menschen sehr stark betonen, rufen auf dieser Ebene etwa das 'klerikale Syndrom', eine Form der religösen Persönlichkeits-Deformation und Selbstgeiselung hervor. Im Hinblick auf staatliche Führung ist die Todesstrafe für Verbrecher ein Ausdruck von Schulddenken.

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Schuld-Ebene: Tabelle der Anziehungen und Abneigungen

Anziehungen und Abneigungen auf der Ebene der Schuldgefühle

Anziehung	Abneigung
Urteil fällen	Das Urteilen GOTT überlassen
Sich selbst oder andere bestrafen	Sich selbst und anderen vergeben
Barmherzigkeit zurückweisen	Barmherzigkeit und Mitgefühl annehmen
Negativität rechtfertigen	Den unterschwelligen Nervenkitzel aufgeben
Gefühle projizieren	Verantwortung übernehmen
Verantwortung (auf andere) projizieren	Sich als Urheber bestätigen
Sich für Wahrnehmung entscheiden	Sich für die Essenz entscheiden
Starre, enge Ansicht, hilflos, stecken bleibend	Flexibilität, beide Seiten sehen, wachsen
Sich klein und verzagt fühlen	Das jeweils Größere wählen
Buße, Selbstgefälligkeit	Anderen dienen
An einer Denkposition festhalten	GOTT um Wunder bitten
Rechtfertigen	Nachsichtig sein, Möglichkeiten auswählen
Ausagieren, verstärken, übertreiben	Transzendieren, überstrahlen
Boshaftigkeit genießen, grausam agieren	Sich an Güte erfreuen, ausgedrückt gegenüber sich selbst und anderen, Mitgefühl empfinden
Gegen sich selbst und andere handeln	Sich engagieren, um sich und anderen zu helfen
Sich für das Negative entscheiden	Sich für das Positive entscheiden
Recht haben	Unrecht haben
An der Vergangenheit kleben	In der Gegenwart leben
Geizig, besitzergreifend	Wohlwollend, erlaubend, tolerant
Rachsüchtig	Barmherzig

Orientiert an: ► D. Hawkins, Erleuchtung ist möglich. Wie man die Ebenen des Bewusstseins durchschreitet, S. 79f, 2008

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Verlorenes Vertrauen durch aufrichtige Aussöhnung zurückgewinnen

Die fünf Stationen einer Entschuldigung

༺༻	Handlungsschritt	Beschreibung
1.	Übertretung anerkennen	Der Angreifer versteht genau und bestätigt, inwiefern er/sie sich fehlverhalten hat.
2.	Verantwortung übernehmen	Der Angreifer übernimmt die persönliche Verantwortung für den (von ihm) angerichteten Schaden.
3.	Reue zeigen	Es gibt keinen Ersatz für die magischen Sätze "Es tut mir leid" und "Ich bitte um Entschuldigung."
4.	Wiedergutmachung leisten	Der Angreifer gleicht den Schaden gegenüber dem Geschädigten aus. Wenn dies nicht möglich ist, bekundet er seine Absicht, nicht mehr zu beleidigen oder schädigen.
5.	Besserung geloben	Der Angreifer bekundet seine Absicht, das ungebührliche oder unachtsame Verhalten nicht zu wiederholen.

Quelle: ► John Kador, ungarisch-US-amerikanischer Autor, Effective Apology. Mending Fences, Building Bridges, and Restoring Trust
[Die wirksame Entschuldigung. Zäune flicken, Brücken bauen, Vertrauen wieder gewinnen], Berrett-Koehler Publishers, 1. Mai 2009

Siehe auch: ► Vertrauen

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Zitate zum Thema Schuldbewusstsein / Guilt

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Zitate von D. Hawkins

⚠ Achtung Siehe Power vs. Truth (engl.) Januar 2013

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Quotes by D. Hawkins

⚠ Caveat See Power vs. Truth, January 2013

Guilt is the refusal of God's mercy. Source unknown

It seemed like a good idea at the time! Source unknown

Remember [...] without your little animal (ego) you wouldn't be here to feel guilty about your little animal. Source unknown

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Reference to:

the teachings of Socrates

All men choose what they believe to be the good. Source unknown

Guilt, so commonly used in our society to manipulate and punish, manifests itself in a variety of expressions, such as remorse, self-recrimination, masochism, and the whole gamut of symptoms of victimhood. Unconscious Guilt results in psychosomatic disease, accident-proneness, and suicidal behaviors [...]. Guilt-domination results in a preoccupation with "sin", an unforgiving emotional attitude frequently exploited by religious demagogues, who use it for coercion and control. Power vs. Force. The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior, chapter 4, S. 77-78, Hay House, February 2002

There's nothing to feel guilty about and nothing to blame. There's no one to hate, but these are those things that are better avoided, and such blind alleys will become increasingly apparent. Everyone has chosen his own level of consciousness, yet nobody could of done otherwise at any given point in time. We can only get "there" from "here." Every leap has to have a platform to originate from. Pain exists to promote evolution; its cumulative effect finally forces us in a new direction, although the mechanism may be very slow. How many times is it necessary to hit bottom before a lesson is learned? Perhaps thousands, which may account for the sheer quantity of human suffering, so vast as to be incomprehensible. Slowly, by inches, does civilization advance. Power vs. Force. The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior, chapter 7 "Everyday Critical Point Analysis", S. 127, Hay House, February 2002

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Letting go of guilt

Guilt is an attempt to purchase salvation, manipulate God, and purchase forgiveness by suffering. These attitudes stem from the misinterpretation of God as a great punisher. We think we will assuage his righteous wrath by our pain, suffering, and penance. There is only on appropriate 'penance' for wrong-doing, and that is change. Instead of condemning the negative, we choose the positive. The Eye of the I From Which Nothing is Hidden, S. 143, 2001

Guilt is based on a positionality that creates a perceptual duality of the opposites. I. Reality and Subjectivity, S. 193, 2003

[Paraphrased] The statement "I shouldn't have done that." holds an error.
Explanation: "The hypothesized is believed to be a reality."

I. Reality and Subjectivity, S. 193, 2003

True guilt applies to intention, whereas regret refers to unfavorable outcome. I. Reality and Subjectivity, S. 195, 2003

The best resolution of guilt is to rededicate oneself to God and one's fellow man and to the forgiveness of self and others. I. Reality and Subjectivity, S. 196, 2003

[Self-hatred] is a clinging to the past where Reality is not discoverable. I. Reality and Subjectivity, S. 196, 2003

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Projection

One way the ego mechanism handles guilt is by projection, so that one's motives and emotions are disowned and seen as being 'out there' and therefore an object for justified hate and vindictiveness. Transcending the Levels of Consciousness. The Stairway to Enlightenment, chapter 2 "Guilt and vindictive hate", S. 48, 2006

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Duality of guilt and hate

Because the consequences to self and others can be extensive, guilt and hatred, whether directed within or projected onto others, necessitate serious attention. In return, the rewards from experiencing increased degrees of happiness are gratifying and experientially well worth the effort. The relinquishment of guilt and hatred is a major benefit at all levels of life as these ego positions are corrosive to self and others. Resistance stems from the secret pleasure the ego derives from negativity. Transcending Levels of Consciousness. The Stairway to Enlightenment, S. 78, 2006

Psychological denial stems from guilt, and when guilt is assuaged, inner honesty ensues. Transcending Levels of Consciousness. The Stairway to Enlightenment, S. 363, 2006

There is no indication from any source from higher truth that God is influenced or assuaged by guilt. The great sages of history do not speak of guilt but instead refer to "sin" as being due to ignorance. Along the Path to Enlightenment. 365 Reflections from David R. Hawkins, edited by Scott Jeffrey, Reflection of October 21th, January 2011

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Projection

As Freud discovered, out of guilt the animal nature of man becomes repressed and then projected onto others, or onto a deity that purportedly has the same character defects as man. Historically, man paradoxically fears his own projections and confuses Divinity with the repressed dark side of his own nature. The ego is dissolved not by denunciation or self-hatred, which are expressions of the ego, but by benign and nonmoralistic acceptance and compassion that arises out of understanding its intrinsic nature and origin. Dissolving the Ego, Realizing the Self. Contemplations from the Teachings of David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D., edited by Scott Jeffrey, chapter 1, S. 27, quote 3, Hay House, August 2011

There is egotism in wallowing in guilt and suffering. This is NOT the way to God. It leads in the opposite direction. Houston, Texas, Seminar The Realization of the Presence of God, Unity Church, 11. October 2003

Guilt and self-flagellation are a kind of ego inflation. Houston, Texas, Seminar The Realization of the Presence of God, Unity Church, 11. October 2003

Guilt is a denial of what the ego is craving. It's a fear of not getting our wantingness. Sedona Seminar Emotions and Sensations, 3 DVD set, 17. April 2004

The source of your guilt is a consequence and a by-product of your own spiritual aspiration. Now the ego's energy gets invested in the mind. The mind is a tool of the animal. It's interested in survival. Sedona Seminar Emotions and Sensations, 3 DVD set, 17. April 2004

If you demonize the ego, you get paralyzed by guilt. Because your increase is the result of someone else's decrease. Sedona Seminar Vision, 3 DVD set, 25. February 2005

Guilt should only be a sign, not a place to hang out. Sedona Seminar Alignment, 3 DVD set, 16. April 2005

Out of guilt, sometimes we choose to undo things we've done, for the sake of our spiritual growth. If we can see it in our consciousness to do so, we can undo much with strictly spiritual techniques. In a sense of culpability, we undo in action. Sedona Seminar Spiritual Traps, 3 DVD set, 15. October 2005

By exercise of the will, the conscience can then be PROHIBITED from becoming just another self-indulgent, wallowing-in-guilt, paradoxically egoistic perpetrator. Sedona Seminar God, Religion and Spirituality, 3 DVD set, 10. December 2005

Guilt leads to illness if left in the unconscious.
You must acknowledge it. Forgive others, not to feel superior, but to forgive yourself. What you forgive is actually yourself for seeing it that way. The limitation of the human psyche, Jesus Christ taught this, "Forgive them for they know not what they do". You are simply giving up an illusion. What you hold against them is your resentment, a projection of blame – it's somebody's fault – they owe you. The Twelve Step Programs teach that there is no such thing as a justified resentment. All that was yesterday. You don't get to bask in feeling sorry for yourself. The etheric body existed and exists first. It is the blueprint out of which the physical body arises. All our belief (mental) systems, our spiritual and physical realities came out of it. Propensities tend to be genetic – i.e. alcoholism, depression. Have an open mind. Tai Chi helps you to explore the human dimension. Prescott Seminar Overcoming Doubt, Skepticism and Disbelief, 3 DVD set, 9. August 2008

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Zitate von anderen Quellen

Persönliches Bekenntnis

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Bekenntnis eines Psychopathen zur NWO:

Über ein Jahrhundert lang haben ideologische Extremisten von beiden Seiten des politischen Spektrums gut publizierte Ereignisse wahrgenommen, die Rockefeller-Familie für den übermäßigen Einfluss anzugreifen, den wir ihrer Meinung nach auf amerikanische politische und wirtschaftliche Institutionen ausüben. Manche glauben gar, wir seien Teil einer geheimen Kabale, die entgegen der besten Interessen der USA arbeitet, charakterisieren mich und meine Familie als Internationalisten und Verschwörer, die gemeinsam mit anderen weltweit eine integriertere globale politische und wirtschaftliche Struktur schaffen – eine Welt, wenn Sie so wollen. Wenn das die Anklage ist, dann bin ich schuldig, und ich bin stolz darauf. ⚡ David Rockefeller, Sr. (1915-2017) US-amerikanischer Bankier, Milliardär, "Philanthrop", Staatsmann, Patriarch der Rockefeller-Familie, Aussage anlässlich des Bilderberger Treffens, Baden-Baden, 1991, zitiert in der Autobiografie: Erinnerungen eines Weltbankiers, FinanzBuch Verlag, 31. Dezember 2007, August 2010

Schlussfolgerungen

Fortschritt ist mit Schuld verbunden. Gespräche mit Bert Hellinger (1925-2019) deutscher Familientherapeut nach abgewandelter systemischer Familienaufstellung, ehemals Ordensmitglied der Kongregation der Mariannhiller Missionare, Leiter einer südafrikanischen Missionsschule, Autor, Anerkennen, was ist, Interviewerin Gabriele ten Hövel, deutsche Journalistin, Kapitelüberschrift, Kösel Verlag, 14. Auflage 27. Februar 1996

Es ist ausgesprochen wichtig zu verstehen, dass der Buddhismus sein Augenmerk nicht auf Fehler richtet oder darauf aus ist, bei den Menschen Schuldgefühle wegen ihrer Fehler hervorzurufen. Fehler müssen erkannt werden, und sie müssen bereut werden. Haben wir einmal für sie eingestanden, sollten wir uns nicht mehr den Kopf darüber zerbrechen. Übertriebene Schuldgefühle und Gewissensbisse sind genauso samsarische Fesseln wie Gier und Eifersucht. Ehrwürdiger Meister Hsing Yun (*1927) chinesischer buddhistischer Mönch, Gründer und spiritueller Mentor des buddhistischen Fo Guang Shan Ordens, Reformator des Mahayana Buddhismus in Taiwan und China, Wahrhaftig leben, S. 82, Schirner Verlag, Darmstadt, 4. Auflage März 2000

Kumuluswolken

Es ist für Frauen ungemein wichtig zu begreifen, dass ihre Minderwertigkeits- und Schuldgefühle nicht auf tatsächlicher Minderwertigkeit und Schuld beruhen, sondern auf einem Weltbild, das Frauen und Weiblichkeit ganz allgemein auf massive und subtile Weise in diese Richtung drängt. Sie basieren auf
- einem Mythos, der die Frau als eine darstellt, die als zweite geboren wurde, aber als erste gesündigt hat (Adam und Eva)
- einem Gottesbild, welches Weiblichkeit nicht kennt [Stichwort "Herr Gott"]
- einer kirchlichen Hierarchie, die Frauen auf die untersten Ränge jenseits der Macht verweist, obwohl sie eine Mehrheit bilden
- einer Politik, die Frauen vorrangige Positionen der Bittstellerin und Almosenempfängerin zumutet
- einer Psychologie, die die Frau primär als Mängelwesen interpretiert, wobei sie ihre Stärken und Fähigkeiten in Schwächen und Defizite verwandelt (Sigmund Freud u.a.)
- einer Wissenschaft, die männliche Denkmuster und Wertungen als "objektive Wahrheit" ausgibt und weibliche Sichtweisen ignoriert oder als "falsch" verwirft.

Das patriarchale, frauenverachtende Weltbild, das ursprünglich von Männern durch die Schaffung von Wissensgebieten und Glaubensgebäuden, Denkschulen und Institutionen, Wertemustern und Normen, Handlungsmustern und Bräuchen etabliert wurde, lebt heute in entscheidendem Maße von seiner Weitergabe durch Frauen. Christa Mulack (*1943) deutsche Erziehungswissenschaftlerin, evangelische Theologin, Autorin patriarchatskritischer Werke, ... und wieder fühle ich mich schuldig. Ursachen und Lösung eines weiblichen Problems, S. 70, Kreuz-Verlag, 1. September 1993

Referenz: de.Wikiquote-Eintrag ► Schuld

Literaturzitate

Wenn wir einen Menschen hassen, so hassen wir in seinem Bild etwas, was in uns selber sitzt. Was nicht in uns selber ist, das regt uns nicht auf. Hermann Hesse (1877-1962) deutsch-schweizerischer Dichter, Schriftsteller, Nobelpreisträger in Literatur, 1946, Demian. Die Geschichte von Emil Sinclairs Jugend, Fischer, Berlin, 1919, 1920, Suhrkamp, Frankfurt am Main, 1966, 26. Auflage 2004

Jeder ist vor jedem anderen für alles schuldig; nur die Menschen wissen es nicht; wenn sie es nur wüssten – dann hätten wir das Paradies! Fjodor Michailowitsch Dostojewski [BW 465] (1821-1881) russischer Romanschriftsteller, Die Brüder Karamasow, Ausspruch von der Figur Markel, Kaiser Verlag, Klagenfurt, 1978

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Quotes by various other sources

Personal avowal

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A psychopath's NWO confession

For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will.
If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. ⚡David Rockefeller (1915-2017) current US American patriarch of the Rockefeller family, autobiography Memoirs, chapter 27, S. 404-405, Random House, New York, Trade, 1st edition 15. October 2002, reprint 28. October 2003

I don't feel guilty for anything. I feel sorry for people who feel guilt. Ted Bundy (1946-1989) US American kidnapper, rapist, serial killer, necrophile, first claiming innocence then confessing to 30 homicides (1974-1978), executed in 1989, cited in: Article These Quotes From Ted Bundy Are Absolutely Chilling, presented by the international fashion and entertainment magazine Cosmopolitan, Amanda Lundgren, 13. May 2019

Self-righteousness is a loud din raised to drown the voice of guilt within us. Eric Hoffer [LoC 505] (1902-1983) US American philosopher, social critic writer, source unknown

Guilt is perhaps the most painful companion of death. Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, M.D. [Social impact LoC 485] (1926-2004) Swiss US American psychiatrist, death and dying researcher, founder of Near-death studies, author, On Death and Dying, 1969, Scribner, paperback edtion 9. June 1997

In the Old Testament, guilt enters the world by way of a bite from a fruit. Leonard Shlain, M.D. sextimeandpower.com (1937-2009) US American chairman of laparoscopic surgery, associate professor of surgery, UC San Francisco, researcher, writer, The Alphabet Versus the Goddess. The Conflict Between Word and Image, Alphabetvsgoddess.com, Penguin, 1. September 1999

Releasing guilt is like removing a huge weight from your shoulders. Guilt is released through the empowering thought of love and respect for yourself. Dr. Wayne Dyer [LoC 450] (1940-2015) US American self-help advocate, spiritual lecturer, author, source unknown

True guilt is guilt at the obligation one owes to oneself to be oneself.
False guilt is guilt felt at not being what other people feel one ought to be or assume that one is. Ronald D. Laing (1927-1989) British Scottish psychiatrist, Self and Others, 1961, chapter 10, Penguin (Non-Classics), 1. January 1995

The scientific discourse misses the fact that the ability to deny is an amazing human phenomenon, a product of sheer complexity of our emotional, linguistic, moral and intellectual lives. Denial is a complex unconscious defense mechanism for coping with guilt, anxiety and other disturbing emotions aroused by reality. Stanley Cohen, Ph.D. (1942-2013) South African professor of sociology, criminologist, London School of Economics, author, States of Denial. Knowing About Atrocities and Suffering, Wiley-Blackwell, paperback, 14. December 2000, Polity Press, 2001

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4% of the population are guiltless people due to an anti-social personality disorder.

Many mental health professionals refer to the condition of little or no conscience as "anti-social personality disorder", a non-correctable disfigurement of character that is now thought to be present in about 4 percent of the population – that is to say, one in twenty-five people. This condition of missing conscience is called by other names, too, most often "sociopathy," or the somewhat more familiar term psychopathy. Guiltlessness was in fact the first personality disorder to be recognized by psychiatry, and terms that have been used at times over the past century include manie sans délire, psychopathic inferiority, moral insanity, and moral imbecility. Martha Stout, Ph.D. (*1953) US American psychologist, author, The Sociopath Next Door. The Ruthless Versus the Rest of Us, Broadway Books, New York, 2005, Harmony, 14. March 2006

Reference: en.Wikiquote entry ► Guilt

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Englische Texte – English section on Guilt

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Differentiating shame ⇔ guilt

The painful feeling of shame is believing one is flawed and therefore unworthy of acceptance and belonging.
Shame is self focused (being – passive): I am bad.
Guilt is behavior focused (doing – active): I did something bad.

Source: ► Video presentation by Brené Brown, Ph.D., LMSW (*1965) US American shame, vulnerability, empathy researcher,
Graduate College of Social Work, University of Houston, public speaker, author, Is shame good?, YouTube film,
minute 00:39, 3:12 minutes duration, posted 2. March 2008

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Afflicted emotions and human dignity

According to the psychodynamic theory of Hungarian US American psychoanalyst Sandor Rado, M.D. (1890-1972) shame and guilt are the most destructive emotions within a group of emergency emotions (including anger,
grief, greed, and pride) damaging the whole and undermining the good of all.

Whoever feels shamed, fixates inwardly. The inviolable human dignity –
both the sacred and the tabooed ? – has been desecrated (dishonored) in front of and by others.

Whoever feels guilty, fixates outwardly.
He or she desecrates (dishonors) their inalieable innate inviolable human dignity.

Restored feeling	Achievement	Implication
Transformed shame	Beyond inferiority and victimhood	Sense for the sacred
Transformed guilt	Beyond self-defeating flagellation	Sense of regret, reversion, recontextualising, metanoia
Transformed grief	Beyond indictment and whining	Sense of understanding for the human condition and compassion
Transformed righteous anger ("Holy" wrath)	Beyond disempowering aggression	Sense of justice and the strength ready to launch social reforms
Transformed pride	Beyond superiority and supremacy, narcissm and predatory impulses	Sense of divine dignity, reflected in human dignity

See also: ► Dignity and ► Shame and ► Grief and ► Anger and ► Pride

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Pride ⇔ shame – Lao Tzu

Pride attaches undue importance to the superiority of one's status in the eyes of others.
And shame is fear of humiliation at one's inferior status in the estimation of others.
When one sets his heart on being highly esteemed, and achieves such rating,
then he is automatically involved in fear of losing his status.

Source: ► Lao Tzu (604-531 BC) Chinese sage, philosopher, founder of Daoism,
Tao Te Ching [The Book of the Way], verse 13, 800-200 BC

See also: ► Lao Tzu and ► Pride

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Index: Schuldgefühle / Guilt – Bücher von D. Hawkins

Buch 1, S. 70
Buch 2, S. 443 (Skala)
Buch 3, S. 553 (Skala)
Buch 5, Kapitel 3 Schuldgefühle und rachsüchtiger Hass, S. 49ff

Englische Werke

Buch 1E Hay House, S. 68 (Skala)
Buch 4E, S. 412 (Skala)
Buch 5E, Kapitel 2 Guilt and Vindictive Hate, S. 47ff

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Index: Audio- und Videomedien (engl.) von und mit D. Hawkins

Prescott Seminar Spirituality: Reason and Faith, lecture 1, 3 DVD set, 26. January 2008 – How to be free of Guilt, YouTube film, 3:09 minutes duration, posted by veritaspub 4. August 2010
– How Can I Clear Unconscious Guilt, YouTube film, 2:02 minutes duration, posted by SpiritualBuzz 22. June 2012
Audio Sedona https://veritaspub.com/product/satsang-series-3-september-9-2009/Satsang Q&A #3, 2 CD set, 9. September 2009 – David R. Hawkins on judgmentalism and guilt, YouTube film, 4:35 minutes duration, posted 11. May 2011

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Links zum Thema Schuldbewusstsein (BW 30) / Guilt

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Literatur

Ferdinand von Schirach (*1964) deutscher Strafverteidiger, Schriftsteller, Schuld. Stories, Piper, München, 1. August 2010

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Weblinks (engl.)

Blog article by Lawrence H. Staples, Guilt and Individuation – Always Pay!, presented by Fisher King Press, 16. February 2013

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Audio and video links (engl.) – Guilt and shame / Schuld und Scham

Video presentation by June Tangney, US American professor of psychology, George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, Shame and Guilt: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, presented by George Mason University and Research Channel, The Vision Series, YouTube film, 1:12:12 duration, posted 9. February 2008

Research indicates that guilt (linked with empathy) is the more adaptive emotion as it can motivate people to behave in a moral, caring, socially responsible manner. Shame (about the self) (linked with aggression) can easily go awry.

Video interview with Brené Brown, Ph.D., LMSW (*1965) US American shame, vulnerability, empathy researcher, Graduate College of Social Work, University of Houston, public speaker, author, Healing Shame, presented by Houston PBS, program "Living Smart", host Patricia Gras (*1960) US American television anchor, reporter, journalist, YouTube film, 26:48 minutes duration, posted 16. March 2010

Shame effects women and men differently.

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